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    The main problem I have with this kind of...

    The main problem I have with this kind of attitude is it might well work alright in the US where people are making their own decisions.

    When talking about other countries with proper support for...
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    The reason why China invest so much in sport is...

    The reason why China invest so much in sport is to make a political point of putting themselves out there and showing the world they can be great. So while I agree they will do things behind the...
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    You won't get any Chinese/Russian/Kazakh beasts...

    You won't get any Chinese/Russian/Kazakh beasts without government support, you won't get government support without the Olympics.

    You may temporarily get decent lifters who have been banned. But...
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    I'm not sure if this is true. If anything I think...

    I'm not sure if this is true. If anything I think steroid use helps a less well rounded physique do well, ironically I think we'd see more jacked lifters relying on muscle mass and technical prowess...
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    I didn't bring up CJ implying that he's taking...

    I didn't bring up CJ implying that he's taking drugs. I've kind of assumed he is clean.

    It's a valid point to bring him under suspicion though. I suspect the coaches and athletes from the big...
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    I don't really want to get into an argument over...

    I don't really want to get into an argument over this as I think we are all on the same side here. I'll say it again, I'm glad the Chinese have been busted. It's a very good sign that the retesting...
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    Surely Lu is on the same stuff as all the other...

    Surely Lu is on the same stuff as all the other top Chinese guys are?

    So you're saying genetics is very important. Cool.
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    So why do you think Lu is the best 77kg lifter in...

    So why do you think Lu is the best 77kg lifter in China?

    And for that matter why is CJ Cummings so good?
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    Another thing to note is there's been talk about...

    Another thing to note is there's been talk about the dominance of Lu and Liao (might have to take that title from Lu after these Olympics). But doesn't it say something that China have all these very...
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    It would be interesting to see data on the amount...

    It would be interesting to see data on the amount of funding allocated to weightlifting over the years in China.

    Yes China have always had a big population, but how much effort was being spent on...
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    I don't think anyone claimed that they thought...

    I don't think anyone claimed that they thought China was drug free. Gold medal table for Rio:

    China: 5
    Thailand: 2
    Iran: 2
    North Korea: 1
    Kazakhstan: 1

    Their athletes are better. Everyone...
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    It was on the BBC news home page, quite a big...

    It was on the BBC news home page, quite a big thing is being made of it.
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    That's because your point of view makes no sense....

    That's because your point of view makes no sense. Yes this all started from the German documentary, but they are retesting samples from ALL the countries. Not just Russia.

    Yes the Chinese are...
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    Because if a lifter is ahead on the snatch then...

    Because if a lifter is ahead on the snatch then normally what happens is they clean and jerk the heaviest they possibly can, then the lifter behind clean and jerks what's needed to win. Currently if...
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    This happens all the time weightlifting. If a...

    This happens all the time weightlifting. If a lifter is lighter and behind on the snatch they will do the clean and jerk needed to equal the other lifters total.

    I agree with CNL, it's an awful...
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    Yes and CNL's point was that the US are very...

    Yes and CNL's point was that the US are very dirty in other sports too so by your logic they don't deserve the quota spots either.

    This isn't a time when they can or should just hand the spots out...
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    Yeah, fair enough, I can't argue about how you...

    Yeah, fair enough, I can't argue about how you feel, I can see how others would feel that way as well. From my point of view I think this whole scandal is rather entertaining, I'm not exactly...
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    I do get where you are coming from, but the other...

    I do get where you are coming from, but the other option is to turn a blind eye and I'm definitely not in favour of that. Hopefully the IOC and WADA will tighten things up, I'd like to see some heavy...
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    Yeah I knew that's what his point was, I wasn't...

    Yeah I knew that's what his point was, I wasn't just addressing his post, that's just the one I copied.

    I was trying to make the point that to someone who casually watches weightlifting at the...
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    Do you only care if world records are being...

    Do you only care if world records are being broken?

    From the normal person's point of view they probably won't even realise if the weight categories change slightly and the records are reset. They...
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    I think you have heard too much Chinese fanboy...

    I think you have heard too much Chinese fanboy stuff from the likes of Kirksman trying to sell the "secret" methods and have now been turned against anything anyone says about China.

    The point...
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    Well this is all opinion anyway. The fact is for...

    Well this is all opinion anyway. The fact is for the high amount of lifters they have in international competition they have a remarkably good doping record. I don't believe there's a conspiracy in...
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    In 1980 the population of Bulgaria was 8.8...

    In 1980 the population of Bulgaria was 8.8 million, the current population of China is 1.35 billion. What's your point?

    It seems pretty obvious to me that a bigger talent pool, more funding, more...
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    How exactly do they have a huge talent pool? Lots...

    How exactly do they have a huge talent pool? Lots of countries have cities with a higher population than Bulgaria.
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    I'm not saying they are genetically superior to...

    I'm not saying they are genetically superior to the rest of the world, just that they have the numbers to find freak talent. There are plenty of freak talents in other countries, but no other country...
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