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Thread: The Sanctions Thread

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    Will Jaloud Mohammed be the next IWF president? Or Irani?

    It's not likely to be Phil (pros are that he is from the UK, con that he works for USAW which many nations aren't that happy with).

    Can't be from any nation with a checkered history. So Russia, Romanian, India, Uzbekistan, etc...

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    The IWF is in damage control mode. Their first press release focusses on Thai athletes (with an interesting aside that I've highlighted in bold):

    Budapest. 6 January 2019: Following an update from the International Testing Agency, the International Weightlifting Federation (IWF) can report that cases against ten (10) Thai athletes have now been closed. Between them, the athletes had been the subject of seventeen (17) adverse analytical findings. Anti-doping rule violations have been established in all cases and sanctions consisting of suspensions between 18 months and four years have been established.

    Consistent with the IWF’s commitment to transparency in anti-doping issues, further details of the cases can be found at: https://www.iwf.net/anti-doping/sanctions/

    A number of adverse analytical findings were first established on the basis of samples provided during the 2018 IWF World Weightlifting Championships. These samples did not initially return adverse analytical findings, but a robust and intelligence-based approach (evaluation of the Athletes’ Biological Passport) saw the samples retested for the long-term metabolites of anabolic steroids: a methodology whose widespread implementation has been pioneered by the IWF and the IOC.

    Following the revelation of widespread doping among Thai athletes, a number of them juniors, Thai athletes were withdrawn from competition, including the 2019 IWF World Championships. Thai athletes have not subsequently participated in Olympic Qualifying events and will not be present at Tokyo 2020. The IWF has resisted pressure for any early return to competition.

    Furthermore, based on further retesting, the Thai athlete who had won a gold medal at the Buenos Aires 2018 Youth Olympic Games was proven to have committed an Anti-Doping Rule Violation and has also been sanctioned. The number of confirmed cases means that the independent Member Federation Sanctions Panel will now consider sanctions against the Thai Amateur Weightlifting Association as a whole.

    On 5 January, German TV channel ARD broadcast a show in which a former Thai weightlifter, Rattikan GULNOI appeared to have implicated herself and other Thai weightlifters in doping. The IWF has immediately followed up with the Thai Federation. The IWF has also requested copies of ARD’s materials.

    The widespread abuse of the same anabolic agent, especially among juniors, in Thailand would appear to be indicative of an organised system of doping that may have extending beyond the sanctioned athletes themselves. This impression would appear to have been reinforced by the apparent confession secured by ARD. The IWF will now confer with WADA and the International Testing Agency, in order to establish whether a wider investigation may be appropriate.
    The second press release focusses on the allegations made in the ARD documentary:

    Yesterday evening, the German TV station, ARD, ran a show that focused on doping and governance issues within weightlifting. A number of historical issues, some already disproven and others unfounded, were raised.

    The IWF has to express its shock and dismay at the program as it contains many insinuations, unfounded accusations and distorted information, and it categorically denies the unsubstantiated and very serious accusations made against it by the show.

    The IWF has always been and is today fully WADA Code compliant. It has been running a progressive and extensive anti-doping program, which has been continuously upgraded, including creative and pioneer measures.

    While we are compiling a robust response, we can identify several statements that we are able to refute, e.g.:

    A) Alleged mishandling of Olympic Games TV revenue shares received from the IOC. – It must be said that between 2009 and 2011 the IWF received exactly the same claim. The matter was then discussed and dealt with by the IWF Executive Board and an extensive document package was submitted to the IOC Ethics Commission for study. It was finally established that:

    No money was missing;
    The President and the General Secretary-Treasurer acted in full accordance with the IWF Constitution and provisions in effect at the time;
    All the Olympic revenues were accounted and duly documented in the IWF official bank accounts, (none of them secret),
    The Executive Board had full knowledge of the IWF assets.

    B) Historical testing of leading athletes, in particular Georgian Olympic and World Champion Lasha Talakhadze allegedly not tested during his suspension and before winning the title.

    The allegation is completely false since Mr. Talakhadze was tested three times (two times out of competition) in 2015, even during his suspension period. Furthermore, he was tested six times in 2016 including the Rio Olympic Games, three times out of competition prior to the Games.

    C) Regarding the 2015 IWF World Championships held in Houston, the IWF wishes to emphasize that USADA was contracted in cooperation with HUNADO. The Test Distribution Plan prepared by the IWF Anti-Doping Commission resulted in 24 anti-doping rule violations (ADRV). According to our knowledge, USADA additionally conducted doping controls according to their own test distribution plan – resulting in zero ADRVs.

    Due to the successful cooperation in 2015 Houston, USADA continued its cooperation with HUNADO at the 2017 World Championships in Anaheim and at the 2019 Youth World Championships held in Las Vegas.

    The more recent issue of extensive doping among Thai weightlifters was also raised and the IWF has immediately acted on this. This is a matter that was first revealed thanks to the IWF’s decision to submit in-competition samples, that initially had returned no adverse findings, for further analysis. The relevations by the Thai weightlifter, who is an Olympic champion, are highly worrying and the IWF is following up the issue with the Thai Weightlifting Association and WADA.

    Further information on the Thai situation: IWF Follow-up On Widespread Doping Among Thai Athletes.

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    Lying sonnuvabitch motherfuckers.

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    And the IOC has issued a response to the allegations

    Here are my summaries of their points:

    1. WADA is responsible for anti-doping compliance. The IOC has full confidence in WADA.

    2. Rattikan Gulnoi (THA) is going to be thrown under the bus.

    3. The IOC wants people to remember that it recently took action against the IWF with regards to the Olympics.

    4. The IOC code of ethics has changed since the IOC opposed an investigation into the IWF finances in 2012. They are prepared to reinvestigate the claims of embezzlement and mismanagement.
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    So, essentially it would be worth looking at what events during the 18 months Tokyo 2020 qualification period did HUNADO have responsibility for doping control.

    If these allegations are true, then it all of a sudden makes a lot more sense how some lifters are still hitting huge numbers while others have had their results curtailed massively. Here is me thinking that some very smart people have developed something cutting edge when actually its just plain ol' corruption.

    Take Lasha for example. WADA published their testing data last week and it shows that Georgia performed 18 tests. 7 of those in competition (that probably wouldnt include Lasha) and another 5 were for blood which is only good for picking up HGH. So basically Lasha is not getting tested at home. Then look at the competitions he has done. HUNADO would have been in charge of doping control at Europeans 16', 17', 18' 19' and by the sound of it, Worlds in 18' and 19'. The only competitions he would have been exposed to other testing would have been 2015 and '17 worlds and then in Rio..... though we know that testing in Rio was an absolutely shit show.

    If nothing comes of these revelations, perhaps the slow but steady way to domesticate the doping corruption further is for countries with more rigorous testing to bid for Worlds and Continental championships and insist on their local WADA affiliates to do the testing.

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    Phil Andrews has confirmed on Reddit that the USA voted for Tamas Ajan at the last election and that USAW has been happy with Ajan's performance. He also states that Antonio Urso (who was Ajan's opponent for the IWF Presidency in 2017) has not consistently backed clean sport action - which is surprising.
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    I don't know how many of you have actually seen the footage, but the producers did try to interview the people in question about these allegations. Often in person, and they declined or did not respond. The woman in charge from HUNADO stonewalled at Euros last year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleddau View Post
    He also states that Antonio Urso (who was Ajan's opponent for the IWF Presidency in 2017) has not consistently backed clean sport action - which is surprising.
    The USA employs Pyrros Dimas.

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    The Moldovan team doctor asked the German coach what a clean test would cost in Germany.

    I think I found the context of this conversation: as you may know there's a league system in this country. The clubs organized therein can employ (paid) foreigners to get ahead.

    One of them was Ion Jubirca from Moldova who lifted for Obrigheim until 2017. That year he failed a test for turinabol. You can look up his case via the second link.

    http://iwrp.net/component/cwyniki/?v...zawodnik=21651
    https://www.nada.de/recht/ergebnisma...jus-datenbank/

    So this inquiry wasn't just a what-if chat.
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    United States calls for retesting of stored samples after weightlifting corruption claims

    Lots to unpack in this story. My favourite line is at the end of the story:

    A TAWA [Thai Weightlifting Federation] statement said Gulnoi had complained to police about being duped by a reporter who claimed to be a German team manager, and, despite the interview being recorded and broadcast in the documentary, Gulnoi denied having said that girls as young as 13 take steroids, or that she herself had doped as a teenager.

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