The Sanctions Thread

[Kamrore]

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Hi OldDuffer1,

Ive merged your question with this thread about the Arms stamps as there are a couple of experts on here who may well be able to answer your question.

Jon

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[erpel]

You can google and find this posted all over the place or look it up. William Llewellyn's Anabolic Bible actually specifies which drugs have what anabolic or androgenic ratings, linking the various studies and all that jazz.

That doesn't tell me much about steroid use in weightlifting. Do all of these get used? Do we only have one sanction for trenbolone because nobody is taking it or it's not easy to detect? How many different variants was a Russian lifter on in 2015? Etc. pp.

My point was there's no real information available. There are no whistle blowers in this sport. A few admit much later like some Armenians recently or that one Belarusian, but even they don't give details or specifics as to what exactly is taken, when and why.

EDIT: can we remove these spam posts like the one above me please?

[strapping]

Anabolic androgenic ratings were done on rats and are not necessarily reflective of potency in humans. Also, the ratio is hypertrophy of muscle fibres vs hypertrophy of prostate, but there are other things affected by androgenic stuff

[Blairbob]

Erpel,

1. Trenbolone has never marketed for humans primarily. It seems it was for some periods of time decades ago but is mostly marketed toward livestock now. No idea what the Tren A I see selling online is. If someone is mixing raws or breaking apart vet tren into raws or whatever.

2. Methyltrienolone is also known as oral tren. It is the C17α methylated derivative of trenbolone.

3. Plenty of other Nor17 AAS have been posted for sanctions since 2008. Methyltrienolone, Norandrosterone, Nandrolone. And as I just stated, it doesn't state what any of the WADA sanctions before 2008 were for. I think it used to years ago. And of course, that means we have no idea what substances WLers tested positive for typically before 2000 unless stated. All too often they just use the blanket term of "tested for a banned substance or steroid"

4.

There are no whistle blowers in this sport.

Rodchenkov. Seriously, being German, you should know this as the Germans really pushed the expose on Russian doping awhile back. Then again, that's only 1 besides BALCO which was moreso about other sports.

5. Doping cycles. I originally saw this posted in 2011 on the CF board but it seems down right now. https://forums.t-nation.com/t/russia...g-cycle/187515 Here is the cached google url https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=us but the original url is dead. Hard to say if this actually a legit cycle. I wish I remembered where that one forum I found from KAZ was where lifters were posting their cycles.

6. p.s. Tony is still fighting the spam bots that got thru the filters but laid dormant unlike the ones that started spamming all the porn immediately

[Macca]

https://www.iwf.net/2019/08/13/iwf-o...doping-scheme/

[strapping]

Cliffnotes from that

Provisionally suspended as of 12.8.2019

Violations of Article 2.2 of AD policy (Use or Attempted Use by an Athlete of a Prohibited Substance or a Prohibited
Method)

David Bedzhanyan
Oleg Chen
Ruslan Albegov
Egor Klimonov
Tima Turieva

In any case where it is determined that the athlete did not commit an anti-doping rule violation, the relevant decision will also be published.

IWF will not make any further comments on the case until it is closed

[dan_weightliftinghouse]

It looks like this has come from evidence passed to the IWF from WADA following the McLaren Report and the handover of data from the Russian laboratory.

If this goes back to 2012, Albegov could lose his London 2012 bronze – the last remaining Russian weightlifting medal from 2012.

My article on this, which I will update if any more info comes along:
https://www.weightliftinghouse.com/2...ssian-lifters/

[erpel]

European champion Diana Mstieva W87/W90 banned by RUSADA for 8 years.

https://rfwf.ru/news/diskvalifikatsiya-mstieva-diana/

[Chris McCarthy]

When will Russia finally give WADA The Finger?

[Blairbob]

European champion Diana Mstieva

Silver at Euros.

I may have gotten the count wrong by 1, but I see 14 sanctions by RUSADA in 2019.