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    What's up Yall

    I know it's been a while! How's everyone doing?

    As you can tell, I haven't been around much lately. Life has been nuts, and my priorities have certainly shifted. Weightlifting itself seems to be in a state of disarray.

    When I started WLForums.com I wanted to make it into "the ultimate" resource for Weightlifting. That unfortunately didn't happen and I think the reasons were multifaceted, and overall some combination of:
    • Forums in general aren't as popular as they used to be
    • Reddit is a thing
    • Weightlifting is a very niche sport
    • I didn't have the time and/or intelligence to pull it off
    • I didn't have the motivation because there was no easy way to monetize it...not that I was doing it for the money, but it's hard to do a lot of work for a long period of time for little compensation


    I would love to hear some feedback from all of you!

    • Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on?
    • Do you want to take it over?
    • Am I an asshole?
    • What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself?


    Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

    -Tony

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    Hey Tony,

    Nice of you to drop in.

    Here is some feedback per your request:

    Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on? I do, but I only come here to log my training, which you might notice does not have a lot to do with the sport of Weightlifting. Apparently only Blairbob and I are logging anymore. I'd like to see it keep going but only because I hate to see these communities die and apparently there still is some interest in sanctions LOL

    Do you want to take it over? Not me. I'm an old school healthcare executive, counting my last years to retirement.

    Am I an asshole? Not in my opinion. I've enjoyed our brief discussions on books and philosophy.

    What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself? Not sure. You're right in that it is a niche sport. I do enjoy watching it, but I only do so during the Olympics when coverage allows.

    Good luck to you Tony. I hope health, business and anything else you're tackling goes the direction you hope!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    I know it's been a while! How's everyone doing?

    • Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on?
    • Do you want to take it over?
    • Am I an asshole?
    • What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself?


    Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

    -Tony
    I am well thank you. Weightlifting remains a subject of great interest for me, but I suspect that - like most people - my interest has had to take a backseat to other things happening in the world over the last year.

    I mainly come here for the discussion threads during major international events, and for tracking the long running threads like the anti-doping thread (since it's an annotated timeline for the last few years).

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    No doubt its tough for any sport when there isn't much active competition going on.

    I'm not sure why Reddit has prevailed as the centralized discussion space for so many things, not just sport, but indeed traditional forums have become quieter. The rest of the commentary is attached to actual content offering like instagram posts and YT comments sections - to a lesser extent Patreon. But none of those are a space for longer form interaction.

    I think ultimately there really aren't that many people who are interested or able to engage in long form communication. Doesn't mean we shouldn't try. I suspect things will pick up again as major competitions occur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    I know it's been a while! How's everyone doing?

    I would love to hear some feedback from all of you!

    • Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on?
    • Do you want to take it over?
    • Am I an asshole?
    • What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself?


    Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

    -Tony
    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    I would love to hear some feedback from all of you!

    • Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on?
    • Do you want to take it over?
    • Am I an asshole?
    • What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself?


    Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

    -Tony
    It's been awhile since I wrote anything here but, upon seeing this request for feedback -- and then clearing the 30+ spam/porn e-mails out of my forums inbox -- I decided to give some. In general, I hope that everyone here is doing well amidst the weirdness of the past 12 months.

    * I like the forum and, though new stuff hasn't exactly been flowing into posts over the past 12 months, it would be great to keep it up. I think that, as things in the world start to wander back to near-normal and as comps start occurring again, postings will increase. . . and, of course, the amount of consideration & thought that goes into postings here usually is far better than that occurring on reddit.

    * I would not want to take it over, and though I've engaged in some discussions on this forum in the past, I don't think I have the cache for anyone to want me to take it over.

    * I don't know if you are an asshole, only that you do offer some insightful comments and thoughts on this forum and, of course, that in the past you often help guide off-the-rails discussions (or people) back onto the track.

    * Weightlifting is something in which I engage as my main sport (as much as an almost-50-year-old with "normal" old-guy responsibilities can engage in a sport); both as competitive endeavor and as a fan. The way things are set up for me, the training and competing (albeit virtual) stuff has remained pretty constant over the past year, so it is only the "being a fan" thing which has changed. I am optimistic that there will be plenty of national and even international competitions by end of year, even in post-Olympic downtime (and I'm assuming that Olympics will happen this year). However, though I will likely continue to engage in WL in 2022 and beyond as my main sport and hobby, I am increasingly pessimistic about it's future as international sport in which I can engage as a fan. The cutting of Olympic spots and the increasing threat of getting cut from the 2024 or 2028+ program is not encouraging; I will continue to be pessimistic in this regard until I see a true (and lasting) change of leadership and mentality at the IWF.

    Niche as the sport may be, I still believe it is important for forums like this to exist -- as well as broader-based, less in-depth places like WL-reddit -- because they provide a virtual gathering place to "rally the troops" to discuss and perhaps even loosely organize to make known to the IWF and IOC that weightlifting DOES have fans, they DO give a shit about fair competition, and they are willing to give some thought to solutions and to insist that international and national governing bodies adhere to high standards. At the very least, forums like this give us all a place to wallow in misery together. . . and most weightlifters do have at least a small inclination toward self-inflicted misery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FFF View Post
    I know it's been a while! How's everyone doing?

    I would love to hear some feedback from all of you!

    • Do you still like the forum and want to see it go on?
    • Do you want to take it over?
    • Am I an asshole?
    • What do you think the future holds for Weightlifting itself?


    Looking forward to hearing from everyone.

    -Tony
    I do still like the forum and the way this one is laid out. I still come here looking for good discussion, I'm just not as interested in all the sanctions as other members are. I'm really surprised Reddit gained in popularity the way it has.

    I do not want to take it over, I have enough crap on my plate as it is.

    No, I don't think so at least.

    Although I'm a fan of the sport and compete in it as a hobby (as much as a late middle-aged guy can), WL is definitely in a flux right now with the IWF and all the crap going on. I like that the corruption is getting brought to light and getting the attention it is, but am a bit pessimistic about how all this is going to play out with keeping Weightlifting as an Olympic sport. If it gets cut totally, I'm not sure what's going to happen to the rest of the sport, tbh.

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    I do like the forum and check it daily. Have been doing Olympic style lifting since being shown it by my Dad some 55 years ago. So I suppose you could consider it as being a major part of who I am.
    I highly doubt I could take over the day to day operations of the site but do hope it continues to exist.

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    I like the forum and would like it to stay. At the very least, if it were to be shut down (like erpel's yt channel, i cri evrytim) I would like it archived somewhere.

    I would actually dearly enjoy the return of this format of forums on the internet, partially due to the fact that I grew up with them but it also allows for a sequential, coherent format that lends itself better to continued discussion. But life moves fast and the world moves on.

    The fact that WLreddit is on reddit is both a blessing and a curse. As said by others, it brings WL to a broader audience but it reduces the traffic to this forum and discussion. By the very nature of the site, WLreddit discussion is short lived and somewhat scattered.

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    I wonder if you handed over to the the WeightLifting House people.

    They could rebrand it as WL HOUSE Forums or something.
    They might have a way to monetize it, for them, to keep it going.
    Sure, some equipment ad, coaching ads, etc ...
    ....need to get more form checks going or something.

    Reddit kinda sucks at (most) times.

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    I prefer this forum over Reddit when it comes to creating actual discussion. Reddit can often turn into meme/shitposting within a thread rather than stoking actual discussion.

    If there were some way to create more discussion and dialogue that would be great. There is content being put out by WLHouse, ATG, and others that we could be discussing. There's a lot of training videos being released by lifters themselves (Lee Sang-Yeon for example).

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